"transcending jealousy"

topic posted Sun, August 29, 2004 - 7:24 PM by  <-·´¯`·.(¯`•...
If I had a dime for every time I heard someone "poly" say that they are into poly-amory for the reason of transcending jealousy, I would be a rich woman. Any opinions or comments on this?

~A serial monogamist who has explored and tried poly-amory
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    Re: "transcending jealousy"

    Wed, September 15, 2004 - 3:26 PM
    This was my reason for trying polyamoury, but the plain truth is, there's no getting over jealousy. It's a natural human emotion. However, that said, there are ways to use jealousy as turn on. Anybody relate to this?
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      Wed, September 15, 2004 - 7:27 PM
      I agree- humans are going to have feelings of jealousy regardless if they are in monogamous or poly relationships. And either way, the feelings have to be processed and worked through. I can love all kinds of different, beautiful people...but that doesn't mean I have to fuck all of them. Yes? PS- I am NOT knocking poly's. Everyone is on their own amazing path through life. I am just tired of having to explain why I am not poly.
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        Re: "transcending jealousy"

        Mon, September 20, 2004 - 2:16 PM
        It's shocking to me that you have to explain this to people at all. I'm sorry you feel pressure around this.

        Here are my standard boilerplate answer suggestions to the question: Why are you not poly?

        1. Because my energy is best expressed in totality with one person.
        2. I don't feel the risks of STD and emotional exhaustion are worth it.
        3. Friendships are best for me kept simple, without physical entanglement. I hope you can find value in a platonic friendship with me.
        • Re: "transcending jealousy"

          Tue, September 21, 2004 - 7:40 PM
          Well, it's kind of funny in that the people I tend to gather with at events 'n such (and unfortunately, the ones I am attracted to) are always saying that if one is "spiritually evolved", then you will be able to "love" every one without boundaries and that you will/can share yourself on all levels with everyone.

          I am a very spiritual person...but again, I consider sharing my sexual space sacred, and do not wish to give it to a bunch of different people when I am in a relationship.

          Thank you for your answer suggestions. They all are the truth for me.
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            Re: "transcending jealousy"

            Wed, September 22, 2004 - 7:21 AM
            I spent a long time (7 years) living a poly lifestyle. I had lots of fun and some great experiences, but about a year ago I don't know what happened, but I didn't want to participate any longer. This of course threw waves into the relationship I have with my partner. We have since worked through all that, but during that inital transition period, my partner and all of the people we had relationships were waiting for me to change my mind. When they realized that I wasn't going to change my mind, they spent a lot of time giving me the "spiritually evolved" pep talk. My answer to them was that they all loved me when I was doing what they wanted, and now that I'm doing something different, they won't accept me. It's sad to say, but not a single person except my partner stood by me. When the realization came that I wasn't going to change my mind and that they couldn't talk me into going back, no one had time for me any longer. Looking back on this, I realize that the "spiritually evolved" pep talk was a way for them to put theirselves in a higher position than me expecting me to strive for that. It didn't work because like yourself, I am a very spiritual person and I don't need their approval for my spirituality. It was difficult to loose all those people that I thought were people who loved me for what I was out of bed as well and in bed, but now the people that I'm attracting into my life really do care for me for who I am rather than my sexual talents. It's fulfilling for me to have my meaningful sexual relationship that I can direct all of my sexual energy and have a big social circle to connect with at a different level.
  • Re: "transcending jealousy"

    Fri, October 1, 2004 - 10:52 PM
    I don't get it - I think most people get into poly to have more fun and get more a**. Jealousy is a by-product of noticing more people, not an end in itself. Of course there may be people who are really into jealousy, but I'm not into that m'self.
  • Re: "transcending jealousy"

    Sun, September 11, 2005 - 11:41 AM
    It's a strange thing to say... We're having a "re-debate" on this subject at the empaths alike tribe, in the Compersion thread. (Compersion is the opposite of jealousy?) I'm not sure why the poly empaths like to get on there and start talking about poly and implying that people who are monogamous are "less evolved emotionally/spiritually", "into fear base emotions", "into ego based emotions" or "missing something" but there we are.

    My opinion and experience has shown me that when I try to transcend jealousy I'm basically putting myself through denial. Sometimes very elaborate but still denial.

    It sticks in my mind, when I said to someone, "I know when I get into a poly situation I get competitive and it's not healthy." the immediate rejoinder (do all polys get the same talking points?) was, "Well your ego can't handle it." These feel like sneaky attacks on my self-esteem, I haven't quite figured it out intellectually but I feel it's true emotionally.

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